Comments on: Energy Update: When it Comes to Renewables We Talk About Solar and Wind, What About Geothermal? https://techsomogro.com/energy-update-when-it-comes-to-renewables-we-talk-about-solar-and-wind-what-about-geothermal/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=energy-update-when-it-comes-to-renewables-we-talk-about-solar-and-wind-what-about-geothermal Science, Technology and the Future Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:00:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.4 By: Joel https://techsomogro.com/energy-update-when-it-comes-to-renewables-we-talk-about-solar-and-wind-what-about-geothermal/#comment-7356 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:39:52 +0000 http://www.21stcentech.com/?p=6409#comment-7356 There’s a really good post about the larger potential of geothermal energy at http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2012/01/warm-and-fuzzy-on-geothermal/

The conclusion is that it is a niche technology – useful in places, but there is not the capacity to provide a major solution – currently human global energy use is c.13TW but even utilising every bit of land area, geothermal could supply in the order of 2TW.

So useful, and worth exploiting the quick wins – niche technology works well in its niche. But will largely be a bit player.

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By: Niccolo5 https://techsomogro.com/energy-update-when-it-comes-to-renewables-we-talk-about-solar-and-wind-what-about-geothermal/#comment-6157 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:51:49 +0000 http://www.21stcentech.com/?p=6409#comment-6157 In most locations, the temperature and quantity of readily available geothermal heat is so low that size and capital costs of “turbines/expanders” per unit of energy produced are uneconomically high. Competent energy engineers have been trying to make sense out of “anywhere” geothermal for about a century. Not many, if any, promising stones are yet unturned. “Anywhere” geothermal power will begin to make competitive economic sense when drilling companies can make a 12-inch diameter hole 25,000-feet deep for about a million dollars. That is to say we need about a 95% cost reduction in drilling the geothermal holes that would produce sufficient quantities of high quality steam to justify the costs of the surface equipment.

Perhaps if you can get a free exhausted oil well hole that’s 10,000 feet deep you can extract enough heat to run a 20-kW expander on a sustained basis. The market value of that amount of electricity is about a dollar per hour: $8700/year. But capital costs for the expanders, valves, heat exchangers, pumps, transformers, cables, etc. would likely exceed $200,000 per hole. If operating expenses were zero, the expanders and generators were immortal, there were no decline in heat production, and capital loan service costs were zero, it would only take 23-years to recover the initial investment. That’s why we see geothermal power plants only where very a lot of hot rock is near the surface, and even in those exceptional locations thermal efficiencies are only in the 10-20% range.

Geothermal comfort heating and cooling for homes costs less to install than swimming pools, and I would back government mandates requiring geothermal heating and cooling before granting swimming pool permits.

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By: Diane https://techsomogro.com/energy-update-when-it-comes-to-renewables-we-talk-about-solar-and-wind-what-about-geothermal/#comment-6125 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:11:28 +0000 http://www.21stcentech.com/?p=6409#comment-6125 Great article!

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