Alkali metal thermal electric converters use a temperature differential to produce electricity..perhaps another example of LENR…….

Lithium batteries are prone to entering a condition called thermal “run-away” in which localized heating can break down cobalt releasing oxygen to feed the fire until the fuel is consumed…..

Carbide lanterns have existed for a hundred years,

transition metals are part of the periodic table……

Super conductors exist……

Even though I am a skeptic, and believe that the laws of physics are to be respected…..and I would love to see someone create a demonstration that is repeatable by mere mortals without any veils of secrecy….using proper scientific method…..

I can’t fully discount the possibility that on some level it may be possible to input a small amount of intense energy into a “localized” area (electrically created gas plasma-mini arc furnace) that creates an exothermic reaction of a different “nature”……

I continue to write about cold fusion as you will note from the latest posting about Dennis Cravens plans in about 4 months to have a cold fusion powered car in a parade in his home town of Cloudcroft, New Mexico. I’m pulling for him but we’ll see what ensues.

Couldn’t be more relaxed. Just want to see one of these cold fusion inventors show us something without the covers and mystery. Just too interesting to pass up the opportunity to write about it.

I don’t know the cost of palladium and deuterium. And I don’t know how much of both are needed to develop a commercial product. I am sure for the purpose of the type of experiment contemplated by Dennis Cravens the $20,000 he is trying to raise through crowdfunding should more than cover the tab. Hope you had a chance to read the posting on Cravens and his Model A steam engine with a cold fusion heated boiler.

There there, no reason to get worked up. Cold fusion is getting, what.. 0.000000000000000001% of the total money spent on research? Probably less, seems like a lot of them are privately funded. The worst that could happen is it turns out it’s a hoax, a hoax that has huge scientific institutions fooled. If this is the case we are left with a shamed scientific community that moves on from cold fusion. Best case scenario we don’t need oil anymore. The rewards outweigh the risks by orders of magnitude unimaginable. Save the world/Live with shame.. I say go ahead with the experiments, and give them more money. “Hot” fusion is getting all the attention even if we’re decades away from being able to contain the heat of hot fusion. Take a look at cold fusion in the meantime.

And.. Relax.

It’s going to be rather hard to make an experiment cost effective. They’re working with materials especially made in really small quantities for this experiment. Not until we have factories specifically made to produce this stuff in bulk for reasonable prices can we figure out if it’s going to be viable in the long run. Maybe the production process needs a lot of refinement. One thing is for certain, fossil fuel prices are not going down, so sooner or later it will be more cost effective, no matter what.

Why don’t the LENR proponents merely repeat the simple tantalizing Thermacore experiment with 200 nickel hypotube from 1993? Scale up the pressure vessel size and increase the hypotube length from twenty-feet to two-hundred feet. Then if the original report at, http://free-energy.xf.cz/H2/papers/Anomalous-Heat-from-Atomic-Hydrogen.pdf , which claimed continuous 41 Watts excess heat for one year were actually true, we would expect continuous heat production of about 400 Watts with only 5 Watts electrical input. For that matter, why not fabricate a larger pressure vessel six-inches in diameter and six-feet long and then stuff 2000 feet of nickel hypotube and a couple of gallons of potassium carbonate solution inside? (The hypotube could form a loop connected to an external heat exchanger, with compressed hydrogen as the heat transfer medium.) Then the free-energy gadget should produce 4,000 Watts of anomalous heat. That’s all relatively low tech and inexpensive. Where’s that 4,000 Watt nickel hypotube space and water heater?

like i said
Ok best answer. Who cares about the “science” behind any of these claims.
Can anyone deliver the goods?
Has anyone ever ever delivered on the promise of cold fusion LENR on real cost effective basis? In other words MONEY out is greater than MONEY in?
Rossi and his Ecat so far HAS NOT delivered the goods.
No real customer has ever gotten their hands on one.
What is to make of that?
That is the question. Is it a scam?
I think that the answer to that will be for each person to judge. How many years are you going to wait before a Rossi Ecat is sold not only to a “real customer” but to more than one “real” customers?
So far no goods have been delivered.
My guess is some people will call it a scam 6 months from now, some a year, some two years etc.
Who cares about MIT, National Instruments etc. Where is the working, produced and sold Ecat?
That is why I say my “best answer” IS NOT TO LISTEN TO PROMISES BUT WAIT FOR THE REAL DEAL!
As long as the Rossi Ecat remains an unfulfilled promise speculation as to its relevance, effectivity and conspiracy theories will thrive.
Deliver the goods Mr Rossi!

Using a plasma based method, it does take a massive amount of energy input (to transition to a plasma). But the discoveries lately have been that you can drive fusion using a Bose-Einstein condensate.

From my understanding of the ELTB theory (which has been around in the literature for over a decade), and take this with a grain of salt as the math is incredible complex, what happens is you have two atoms resonating in a trap that leads to them condensing into one virtual particle. This then allows for quantum tunneling through the Coulomb barrier. Basically, the Coulomb barrier ceases to exist at the quantum scale, allowing low energy fusion (fusion at temperatures in the 100 C range).

This idea of a virtual particle resonance allowing fusion events that should not occur (or occur at very, very low rates) is not new. The triple-alpha process describes this, but between three helium 4 atoms that come into resonance to make a “virtual” beryllium atom, which then decays into an alpha particle and a carbon 12 atom ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-alpha_process ). This is an experimentally observed process.

One of the other Bose-Einstein condensate theories for LENR uses a derivative of the triple-alpha process to predict and explain cold fusion. However, I personally (and since NI endorsed it and said they had confirmed its results) favor the EBTL.

Dr. Edmund Storms has a nice published paper looking at several competing theories, and posits his own, about nuclear active regions in a metal lattice being the site for the experimentally observed nuclear events.

No matter how you slice it though, there is a wealth (over 180 published papers, according to National Instruments) of experimental evidence empirically showing cold fusion as being actual fusion, and a net energy positive event.

I agree that there is an electro-chemical reaction occurring and it appears to be highly variable but transmutation or fusion has traditionally been a phenomenon that required a massive amount of energy input to achieve.